Cura Tibi

147 to 163 - Juv.3

126 to 146 ← 147 to 163 → 164 to 170

147 quid quod materiam praebet causasque iocorum

  • quid quod
    • quid?
    • quid est?
    • quid est, quod praebet?
    • quid, quod praebet?
    • quid, [quod ... (one huge relative clause) ...]?
    • whoops all this is wrong
  • quid quod - idiom like "what about XYZ?", "what's more..." - colloquialism. used to suggest something (optionally) as an extension of the previous idea

148 omnibus hic idem, si foeda et scissa lacerna,

  • omnibus | (h)ic i|dem, si | foed(a) et | scissa la|cerna

149 si toga sordidula est et rupta calceus alter

  • si toga | sordidu|la (e)st et | rupta | calceus | alter
  • sordidula (a little dirty) is diminuitive of sordidus (= foeda)
    • interesting that it's a diminuitive adjective bc diminuitives are usually nouns

150 pelle patet, vel si consuto volnere crassum

151 atque recens linum ostendit non una cicatrix?

  • recens should be recente... adverb used as an adjective?
    • recens IS neuter. today I learnt -ens adjectives are one-termination... and participles too...
      • btw one-termination just means F M NT are same in the nominative. in accusative it's recentem (F/M) and recens (NT).
      • this recens in the line is accusative btw.

152 nil habet infelix paupertas durius in se

153 quam quod ridiculos homines facit. "exeat" inquit,

  • exeat subjunctive command, can translate as let xem leave or xe shall leave

154 "si pudor est, et de pulvino surgat equestri,

155 cuius res legi non sufficit, et sedeant hic

  • res legi non sufficit the minimum fortune required of a knight was 400,000 sesterces. The law which established this distinction was the Lex Roscia Theatralis, introduced by the tribune L. Roscius Otho in 67 B.C.
    • Domitian revived this law so there's a criticism of him here

156 lenonum pueri quocumque ex fornice nati,

  • leno, lenonis masc
  • quocumque apposition with fornice. you can take quocumque as an adverb as well
  • fornix, fornicis masc - lit. an arch, vault, cellar, transf. a brothel

157 hic plaudat nitidus praeconis filius inter

158 pinnirapi cultos iuvenes iuvenesque lanistae."

  • Whoremongers, auctioneers, and gladiators were all despised, and by the Lex Iulia Municipalis (44 B.C.) were debarred from office. But they were sometimes quite rich and so their sons might be smartly turned out (nitidus, cultos). The pinnirapus snatched feathers from the helmet of his heavily-armed opponent; the lanista was a manager or trainer.
  • cultus - well-dressed, in a dismissive sense (?)

159 sic libitum vano, qui nos distinxit, Othoni.

  • libitum PAP of libet
  • vanus as in empty - Otho did this for no other reason
  • Otho is vanus because he made the Les Roscia which separated people by wealth instead of birth status..?

160 quis gener hic placuit censu minor atque puellae

  • hic refers to Rome

161 sarcinulis inpar? quis pauper scribitur heres?

  • sarcinulis abl comparison with minor and inpar?

162 quando in consilio est aedilibus? agmine facto

  • in consilio est aedilibus - means that the aediles don't consider the poor person when they're doing their public planning. aedilibus is dative of interest? ASK
  • abl absolute isn't really a separate category it's a particular manifestation of all the types of ablatives. like agmine facto is an absolute AND manner. (in hsc write absolute)

163 debuerant olim tenues migrasse Quirites.

  • tenuis, e adj — tenuo, tenuare, avi, atum. they are tenuis because they are starving

theme: nobody cares about the poor???

What about the material and reason of jokes offered
by this person to everyone, if the cloak is filthy and torn,
if the toga is a little dirty and, with the leather broken, the other shoe
is open, or if, with the wound stitched together, the thick
and recent thread is shown by not (merely) one scar?

Unlucky poverty has nothing harder in itself
than that which makes people ridiculous. "Xe should leave," xe says,
"if there is shame, and let xem rise from the equestrian cushion,
xe whose property doesn't satisfy the law, and let them sit here,
the pimp's boys born from whatever arch,
here the polished son of an auctioner may applaud between
the well-dressed youths of gladiators and youths of gladiator-trainers."
Thus it was pleasing to empty Otho, who separated us.

Here, which son-in-law, inferior in wealth and unequal to a girl's
small bundles, was pleasing? Which poor man is written as heir?
When is he in the plan of aediles? With a line made,
the thin Romans ought to have departed long ago.

iures licet et Samothracum
et nostorum aras, contemnere fulmina pauper
creditur atque deos dis ignoscentibus ipsis

creditur: "it is said that" - who is doing the believing? not specified. also saying something but not taking ownership of what you're saying, but not giving a citation either. a citation of fact but with no source.